Submission details
Windows Media Player background and fade collor corruption
After usage of WMP it gets ugly, non user friendly, Rip options wont get off even if music cd is not in the drive. It eats a lot of CPU. I have Q6600 @ 2,40 Ghz and it takes 60% of it sometimes. Fix it or people will be force to another multimedia players.
If I knew I would tell you. :$
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Discussion (20 comments)
I dbout it. Microsoft is liking these ugly faded designs..
The solution is to FILE BUGS!!! Don't whine about stuff you don't like, use the send feedback option and let Microsoft know about the problems.
@LarryOsterman:
I do.
Uh, I don't think Larry showed he has a problem with the Taskforce. On the contrary, he suggested a way to make the beta users be taken into account, i.e. to provide actual problems, bugs, UI quirks, provide reproduction steps, and for the problem to reach the right ears, he suggested using the feedback tool. I don't see anything wrong in his suggestions.
I for one, will continue posting submissions on the Taskforce and reserve the Feedback tool only for serious bugs. However, "I don't like washed out interfaces" is not a bug. That's what he's pointing out.
billerr: That's great. And I totally agree. My point is solely about the things that are clear bugs (like the reported problems with the Rip tab in this submission and other similar bugs that have been reported on this site). This is NOT a bug tracking web site and people should not consider it a replacement for a bug tracking web site.
Microsoft is NOT monitoring this site, there are a rich set of feedback mechanisms built into WIndows 7 and users should use those mechanisms to report bugs. My point is simply that reporting bugs here will NOT get them fixed. Reporting issues with the feedback tool DOES have a chance of getting issues fixed (I know - I have fixed several issues found by the feedback tool (and several other issues reported by the feedback tool that were already fixed)).
If you're serious about improving the Windows product, PLEASE use the feedback tool to report your feedback. Then feel free to report your submission here so that the community can chat about it. Even little UI quirks (improperly themed dialogs, wrong icons, ugly visuals, etc) should be reported using the feedback form - that way you can be sure that MSFT knows about the issue.
No one said anything about washed out desgins. and thats a comment,
You say Microsoft is NOT monitoring this site, when really you are. I mean, your here. ;)
@LarryOsterman: That is bad to hear. While I do agree with you that this site isn't for bug tracking, I have to say that a bug-free OS doesn't mean it's a great OS!
It would be a big mistake for the Windows team not to listen to the valuable feedback here provided by actual users.
If it's right what you are saying would mean that Microsoft hasn't learned from the mistakes at the Shell revealed forum (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://shellrevealed.com/) back in the Vista beta phase. They haven't listened there and have let the community die.
@ tino, microsoft IS listening, as Long said in that blog post
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20081102/why-y...ute-to-win7-taskforce/
This is a jerkish thing of me to say, given that I was there when Long was allegedly told that at least one user group tracks the taskforces. However:
1) that was a pretty dismissive "sure, we check community sites such as the Vista task force all the time" as opposed to a direct endorsement, at least from the taskbar guys who I interviewed.
2) Microsoft doesn't take user opinions because their own researchers have far better tools which pass the conscious mind of the users and delve into what the users actually *do*. With this in mind, Microsoft's research is far more pertinent.
Long, please keep running the site as the taskforce sites give great tips to indie devs regarding UI, but don't choke if softies say they don't actually read it. It's still a far better resource than anything public, but Microsoft has tools which do billions of times better.
Okay, I should add that Microsoft DOES take conscious user opinions and feedback all the time, but that they centralize all of it for a reason.
However, with regards to UI quirks, which is exactly what the taskforce initiative is addressing, the CEIP is far better for the quirks than anything else, seconded by direct feedback by users through official feedback tools.
Just do what I do find ones you like here copy them and paste it In the feedback tool along with the link to the problem here
But we now know who that one person who seems to demote everyone idea here. It's larry
Larry is correct, the feedback tool is the best way to help make the product better. Please use it!
Posting stuff here is fine and the Vista taskforce site was great to have early on in the development of Win7. However, Microsoft doesn't monitor this site. Some of us (like Larry and me) check here from time to time *on our own* or are referred here by others in the community, and sometimes it gives us good insight into a different cross-section of the userbase. It is, however, NOT a replacement for the official feedback channels. Those are absolutely the best way to help improve the product.
If you want to do what Chris said and copy and paste the same entry to the feedback tool and here, that sounds like a great idea to me. Just make sure your priority while using the beta is using those Send Feedback links. The beta program is designed around getting as much feedback as possible *that* way, and all the teams participate.
Well @Larry, I did reported it quite many time to MS, and I DO report it everywhere so that many of MS staff can see it. It definetly IS one major problem and I am not forced to send you feedback. They, you should at least respect my offer and contribution, for helping and improving Microsoft. Feedback is sent, but will they fix it? I have sent many things that I saw and didnt liked, and I believe my voice wont be heard. I believe here people will watch the MOST problematic problems and fix them. I am sure they wont fix them ALL, but they will in general lines do something, or even at least the major ones.
In my opinion, this type of feedback site (the taskforce) is so much better then newsgroups. Because you get to vote on ideas and see others thoughts. Sure it could be improved here, but its a great start. I'm sure more people will use this sort of feedback site (the voting type, not necessarily the taskforce) then a newsgroup. but thats just my opinion.
Newsgroups, while they are fine, there are so many on microsoft.com. All with different designs, some, have "windows" in 2 or more places. If you had eirther a centralized feedback site, or feedback sites for each product line (meaning, server will just have server feedback topics, nothing else) then may be feedback would be a bit better,
I also sugest you keep the "feedback" tool in windows after the final. Just move it to the control pannel. This way people can send feedback AFTER the product is shiped for feature windows, service packs etc.
I agree with .Chris. The feedback tool should be kept in the release version.
The problems with the feedback tool are that it's a one way communication only. This works good for simple bug reports but as I tried to say earlier: a bug-free OS isn't enough today.
Sometimes even a very small UI glitch may be a bigger issue than a "real" bug.
Like I said, this type of site works well, because you get to vote on the ideas. Now connect is like this, but not very user friendly.
xombie wrote on January 17, 2009, 5:05pm
Yeah, it's definitely in beta right now.
Being fixed.