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Transparency is only nice when used right... Build: 6956

Submitted by TheDub on December 16, 2008 to Aesthetics

Windows Vista did transparency right, in fact in my own opinion the theme is the most polished theme to ever ship with a version of Windows. However Windows 7 took a huge UGLY step backwards. The transparency in the start menu and title bars should only be transparent when the window is not Maximized. OS X made a similar mistake in their original release of leopard by having things transparent all the time. This creates a very ugly effect with certain wallpapers and sometimes readability issues with whatever is in the title bar. Please fix this before final release. Vista did it right when things are Maximized the dark colors with white text is very readable and the taskbar looks good in black to.

Fix the transparency issues. When items are maximized the taskbar and titlebar should NOT be transparent. This is an ugly effect and should be resolved by making a system similar to Vista's transparency, which as I mentioned near perfect in my opinion.

Perhaps the best solution is to provide an option to turn the transparency effects on Maximized windows on and off. Options options options.

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Discussion (10 comments)

TheDub wrote on December 16, 2008, 8:59pm

Changed title from [Transparency is only nice when used right...] to [Transparency is only nice when used right... Build: 6959].

TheDub wrote on December 16, 2008, 9:02pm

Changed title from [Transparency is only nice when used right... Build: 6959] to [Transparency is only nice when used right... Build: 6956].

billerr wrote on December 17, 2008, 1:09am

well a lot of people have already expressed their dislike for the non-transparency of maximized Winodws in Vista. So I think Microsoft has already taken a consensus bigger than the Windows 7 taskforce when it made that change. Things are still in development though. Who knows.

.Chris wrote on December 17, 2008, 1:47am

I pefer the vista way. There could be a simple option for those who like it and those who dont

DARKGuy wrote on December 17, 2008, 2:41am

Just use a non-ugly wallpaper ;)

hoopla_punta wrote on December 17, 2008, 12:17pm

This was since longhorn where it had the same behavior of windows, maximised would become darker.

Ensign Joe wrote on December 17, 2008, 3:31pm

@hoopla_punta: Yes! When maximizing things the taskbar and sidebar faded intransparent and so did the titlebar.
At first I considered the black titlebar ugly in VIsta (which it is, use another color) but when I started using transparent taskbar in XP i found it really annoying if something was below and thus behind the taskbar. Specially ICQ windows with their f***ing advertisements.

.Chris wrote on December 17, 2008, 5:18pm

Well , in the vista beta, people complained that what ever color they sat their glass color to, it wil always turned to black when maxamized. Around 56xx they added in the color of the glass.

Now as i said above, just offer an option in the glass color settings. Check box "alow transparency when windows are maximized" Then people who like that, can have it, and those who don;t can use the vista way.

Options are they key guys

TheDub wrote on December 17, 2008, 7:01pm

I agree with Chris options options options. I do not want things transparent when windows are maximized, maybe some people do, but a simple check box in the themes applet could fix all of this no problem. Vista did it, Windows 7 can to.

@Darkguy
I tend to not choose ugly wallpapers ha ha but they can be ugly when you add the stained glass look combined with only seeing a snip of the top and a snip of the bottom. Ha ha ^_^

RedSign wrote on January 2, 2009, 9:21pm

+ 1

I is not only the wallpaper shining through but also other windows and stuff like that. This just gives the user a confusing effect with maximized windows.

I don't think MS will change this because the majority just want it the way it now is. I dislike it and I think an option would be helping a lot because you can see on the voting that this a really disputed among different users.

TheDub wrote on January 4, 2009, 5:51am

Changed solution description.

Good_Bytes wrote on January 15, 2009, 5:08pm

I already submitted feedback on this...
if you want it fixed, please send a feedback to Microsoft. Just click on the link that is found on every window also found on the desktop and start menu. There is no form to fill. There is just start rating, topic, and a box to type.

.Chris wrote on January 15, 2009, 7:17pm

Takes the same amount of time there as it does here to fill it out

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