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Explorer: always display column headers again (or make it optional)

Submitted by tino on December 11, 2008 to Annoyance, Usability

In the newest builds, the E7 team has removed one of the most useful little feature introduced with Vista: the always active column headers. Even when you are not in the details view, you were able to see and change file sorting and filtering.

I don't know why they have removed this feature. With Win7 focusing more on touch interfaces they should have realized that it's almost impossible to right click with your fingers beside items in Windows Explorer.

Bring this feature back as it was in Vista or make it optional in Explorer's folder view options.

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Discussion (15 comments)

.Chris wrote on December 11, 2008, 10:52pm

I guess they thought this feature wasnt "cool enough"

Tihiy wrote on December 17, 2008, 12:26pm

Optional would be best.

Mycroft wrote on December 29, 2008, 10:59pm

Contrary to their data, I use the columns to select between Date Created, Modified and Name, and ascending and descending, almost every time I open a folder.

I don't understand why this is gone, the sort settings are still being used but you can't quickly see what it's sorting on! The people glad to see this feature go seem to think columns shouldn't be shown when the data below isn't being contained within them. But now sorting, stacking, grouping and filtering are slower to get to, and these weren't just used from the details view. The new search bar adds some of the filtering options, but for example, you can't filter names by a range of letters using this method.

The Arrange By Pivot for libraries feels like an odd duplication of the old functionality. It isn't customisable, it's only available for libraries, and interacts oddly with the older stacking and grouping features. If the old methods weren't simple enough, why not simplify it all for all folders, not just libraries.

Win7s changes are interesting but messy and don't feel like an adequate replacement. I'm now forced to use the Details view all the time, which doesn't have the thumbnail previews. I like the idea of libraries but wish Vista's column UI or some equivalent was simply brought forward for folders and libraries rather than this inconsistency.

Mycroft wrote on December 29, 2008, 11:03pm

This feels like a step back to XP

.Chris wrote on December 29, 2008, 11:38pm

thats microsofts point. many use XP so they want XP users to fell good when upgrading to 7...

i2forlife wrote on January 10, 2009, 2:24pm

This is by far the single most annoying issue I'm facing with Windows 7.

Exploring my files/folders has become an unnecessary chore. I know we lived without it before Vista but now I got so used to it I don't understand why it's gone.

Please bring it back.

tino wrote on January 16, 2009, 11:01pm

Added new image attachment.

tino wrote on January 17, 2009, 12:34am

Changed problem description.

SomF wrote on February 27, 2010, 3:36am

this is certainly a most vexing issue. using windows 7's windows explorer after windows vista's is excruciatingly difficult.

syclonix wrote on March 23, 2010, 8:23pm

As slick as Windows 7 is it appears that it is taking more clicks to get certain tasks done. This is one instance where we've lost the ability to quickly sort folders by name, date, etc. in any view except for the detailed view.

bobuhl wrote on April 6, 2010, 12:38pm

I'm STILL getting the column heading on a small number of file folders and spent precious time searching for an option to get the the column headings back on all my libraries and file folders. Given the above comments my searching is in vain. This is very confusing. That said I strong favor bringing the column heading functionality back.

avrosalbatross wrote on April 10, 2010, 12:16am

This exact particular feature...the ONLY reason I have not switched to Windows 7 and still stuck with Vista.
Changing the detail with which I sort my files and folders is very very important to my work.

Dimalex wrote on April 19, 2010, 5:34am

+1
Bring this feature back as it was in Vista

WaterWolf wrote on April 23, 2010, 12:10am

I've only just installed Windows 7 and I'm absolutely astonished to find this feature has been removed. I deal with images and Exif a lot and it was one of the most important features for me in Windows Vista. Now if I want to sort I have to find a clear section on the screen, move the mouse to it, right click, find the sort section in the menu, move the mouse over that, choose the sort option, right click again, find the sort option in the menu, move the mouse over that, choose the sort direction. That is an awful lot of clunky user interface to have to deal with! I have to go through the whole process again just to see what it is sorting by, rather than just looking at the screen!

I want to look at my photos as thumbnails so that I can see what's in them. I also want to deal with them as files and sort by date modified, date taken and name. There isn't even a quick way to switch between detail view and thumbnail view.

I'm really disappointed, I was expecting this new operating system to be more efficient, not less...

Comment edited on April 23, 2010, 12:16am

gustavocavallin wrote on May 5, 2010, 10:41pm

An issue I am having, which is related to the fact that there are no column headers, is that I cannot figure out how to resize columns (or change their width) in the detail view, when for some reason in some drives the column headers are not present (this happens in removable drives and CD/DVDs). This is a mayor problem since, when the file names are long, you just can't see them in their entirety. I wonder if anybody has a workaround for this issue...

Thanks!

Comment edited on May 5, 2010, 10:43pm

xpclient wrote on August 27, 2010, 2:34pm

This issue is now fixed finally in QTTabBar Alpha 4. See http://qttabbar.sourceforge.net/?p=116.

ijprest wrote on August 30, 2010, 11:11pm

Excellent work! Props to the QTTabBar folks for figuring this out!

My problems with it:
1. I could only get it to work if I turned the toolbar on (I didn't want the other features).
2. It doesn't work in File Open/Save dialogs.

To solve problem #1, I looked at the QTTabBar source, distilled it down to it's essence and rewrote it as a "Browser Helper Object" in C++ (to ensure low resource usage). Download at github: http://github.com/ijprest/Explorer7Fixes/downloads

(All the usual disclaimers apply... not tested too much, use at your own risk, etc.)

I don't know how to solve problem #2, though.


Comment edited on August 30, 2010, 11:26pm

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