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Games Folder's Details Pane resizes oddly.

Submitted by veer01_42 on January 12, 2010 to Aesthetics, Annoyance, Usability

This prob is super hard to explain so bear with me on this one.

1. Open Games Folder from start menu.
2. Resize the WINDOW until it is the length of the screen, Height doesn't matter.
3. Set the DETAILS PANE to the center of the screen
4. ALIGN it to left side of screen.
5. Now DRAG and RESIZE the WINDOW to the right end of the screen and watch the quirkiness happen.


Now repeat steps 1 - 2 again and this time resize the details pane to the extreme left of the window and continue with steps 4 - 5.

Awesomely weird ain't it?

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It was fine in Vista. How the hell did they botch this up?

Discussion (14 comments)

.Chris wrote on January 12, 2010, 11:10pm

This happens to any window not just the games.

Do the same in control pannel and watch the text and icons move around instead of a scroll bar showing up

veer01_42 wrote on January 12, 2010, 11:12pm

Thanks for the heads up. This is incredibly weird!

Comment edited on January 12, 2010, 11:12pm

.Chris wrote on January 12, 2010, 11:13pm

Yes it is.

Indrek wrote on January 13, 2010, 1:44am

I've seen this as well, mostly with Games Explorer. Very annoying when it happens.
+1

patternjake wrote on January 13, 2010, 1:50am

Never got why they didnt implement Game Explorer as a web app, such as write it in JavaScript or HTML, instead of it depending on explorer within DLLS. It would have been much easier for us to add our own artwork and shortcuts.

Sigh, but that wont happen, its microsoft.

.Chris wrote on January 13, 2010, 2:59am

or when and IF it does it will be done half assed

antiufo wrote on January 13, 2010, 4:01pm

+1
I've already seen this bug many times, but I didn't find how to reproduce it.

nyp wrote on January 14, 2010, 11:19am

@patternjake - HTAs ;)

patternjake wrote on January 14, 2010, 9:08pm

nyp: Exactly. I mean they have a HTA and web app exectuable engine which is hardly ever used. Why not use it in Windows 8, and really make it more cloud based. Moving the games explorer to that would be fantastic, think about the developers that could add thier own options, icons, art etc. Right now its all deep down, and only microsoft has the choices for our games.

antiufo wrote on January 15, 2010, 8:39am

Games Explorer would be very inconsistent if they used HTML and JavaScript. It would have many limitations (example: you wouldn't be able to drag'n'drop games icons to the taskbar).
I used to program HTA applications, then I switched to .NET and I'd *never* go back. HTML and JavaScript are inconsistent and are not serious programming languages.

@patternjake: you can already customize the Games Explorer. You can drag normal shortcuts to the Games Explorer folder and make them "games". You can go to %LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows\GameExplorer and customize them, ore use other simpler 3rd party tools.
Software developers can already integrate their games with Games Explorer without Microsoft permissions or certificates.

patternjake wrote on January 18, 2010, 10:25pm

antifuo : Who said that? You can always implement scripts that could reproduce that functionality i.e Google Chrome App maker.

HTML is just an example, since it is directly tied to the web. Personally game explorer would have been alot better if it was a managed .net application instead of an explorer namespace.

antiufo wrote on January 19, 2010, 10:19am

@patternjake
They used a shell namespace in order to avoid having a separate application instead of a simple folder. Microsoft could re-implement the whole Windows Shell (folders, special folders, file associations, custom data types) from scratch using .NET, maybe integrating an object-oriented file system on top of NTFS (WinFS), but luckily Microsoft will *never* use a crappy and limited language such as javascript for this.
Microsoft is abandoning HTML and JS:
- Windows 98/ME folder views were coded in HTML. Now they are coded in DirectUI;
- Windows XP used a web page for Windows Update. Now it is a shell namespace;
- Windows XP used HTML and JS for Windows Activation application, System Restore application, User Accounts in control panel. Now they are all written in native code.

nyp wrote on February 5, 2010, 8:14am

@antiufo

You forgot these (non-essential) components also used HTML & JS as well ;)
- Out of Box Experience (that part where that there is a question mark comes out and randomly annoys you)
- Windows Media Player 9 Tour (uses HTA)
- Windows XP Mode Tour

patternjake wrote on February 11, 2010, 1:29pm

Did not mean the entire UI, I just meant the content, like how Steam does it.

WinFS is far superior to NTFS, since it is NOT a file system. It is an application which runs on top of NTFS providing a relational database system.

Memory usage aside, dropping WinFS was the worst thing Microsoft did during the Longhorn development cycle.

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